Ultimate Amiga
Other => Amiga Hardware => Topic started by: FOL on July 18, 2007, 11:55:07 AM
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For anyone interested, there is a great article in this month's issue of Micro mart magazine. Regarding the Amiga's future and how the PS3 is alot like the Amiga A500.
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Im sure I compared the PS3 to the Amiga the other day and one of you had a go at me, probably Horace. PS3 is a fully fleged computer now, or as Sony would say, a Home Entertainment System. I could spend all day listing the similaritys...
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not me - even the PS2 is apparently a lot like the amiga to program.
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uh
uuh...
the ps3 has no keyboard! - or floppy drive!
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floppy drive = blue ray / memory card reader
keyboard = usb keyboard
i suspect its more about the similarities in coding for it though
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floppy drive = blue ray / memory card reader
keyboard = usb keyboard
i suspect its more about the similarities in coding for it though
Your all incorrect, it actually states "That the hardware setup is more like the A500". i.e. CPU & coprocessor, custom type chipset. Basically it was designed alot like the way amiga's were. They also talk about a possible OS 5 and PS3 partnership, where a PS3 would be running Amiga OS 5 as its Operating System. They go on to say that even some of the PS3 development team regard the PS3 as the modern Amiga.
This is all because of SONY's ties to Amiga when making the CD32.
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floppy drive = blue ray / memory card reader
keyboard = usb keyboard
i suspect its more about the similarities in coding for it though
Your all incorrect, it actually states "That the hardware setup is more like the A500". i.e. CPU & coprocessor, custom type chipset. Basically it was designed alot like the way amiga's were. They also talk about a possible OS 5 and PS3 partnership, where a PS3 would be running Amiga OS 5 as its Operating System. They go on to say that even some of the PS3 development team regard the PS3 as the modern Amiga.
This is all because of SONY's ties to Amiga when making the CD32.
No... please.
AmigaOS already had problems returning on the scene, after the demise of Commodore... Don't make it happen again with PS3, one of the most pricey and less sold home console in the history :P It would be a risky and surely stupid thing to do.
Some analyst even say that PS3 will have to stop production soon, because there are too much consoles on stock, and too few console sold.
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floppy drive = blue ray / memory card reader
keyboard = usb keyboard
i suspect its more about the similarities in coding for it though
Your all incorrect, it actually states "That the hardware setup is more like the A500". i.e. CPU & coprocessor, custom type chipset. Basically it was designed alot like the way amiga's were. They also talk about a possible OS 5 and PS3 partnership, where a PS3 would be running Amiga OS 5 as its Operating System. They go on to say that even some of the PS3 development team regard the PS3 as the modern Amiga.
This is all because of SONY's ties to Amiga when making the CD32.
No... please.
AmigaOS already had problems returning on the scene, after the demise of Commodore... Don't make it happen again with PS3, one of the most pricey and less sold home console in the history :P It would be a risky and surely stupid thing to do.
Some analyst even say that PS3 will have to stop production soon, because there are too much consoles on stock, and too few console sold.
lol, think i care, if SONY cant market right, thats their problem, they have priced themselves out of the market, gambling on the fact everyone will buy it cause of the Blueray. I have to disagree, im a big fan of Amiga OS. I still rather have something like the old Workbench 3.1 (best OS imo). Very easy to use and doesnt crash.
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i'd buy a PS3 if it ran OS5 and OS5 ran whdload.... hehe
so not gonna happen though.... Amiga as a modern company is a joke, and would basicially needed to be taken over by Sony in order to ever actually deliver anything.
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floppy drive = blue ray / memory card reader
keyboard = usb keyboard
i suspect its more about the similarities in coding for it though
Your all incorrect, it actually states "That the hardware setup is more like the A500". i.e. CPU & coprocessor, custom type chipset. Basically it was designed alot like the way amiga's were. They also talk about a possible OS 5 and PS3 partnership, where a PS3 would be running Amiga OS 5 as its Operating System. They go on to say that even some of the PS3 development team regard the PS3 as the modern Amiga.
This is all because of SONY's ties to Amiga when making the CD32.
No... please.
AmigaOS already had problems returning on the scene, after the demise of Commodore... Don't make it happen again with PS3, one of the most pricey and less sold home console in the history :P It would be a risky and surely stupid thing to do.
Some analyst even say that PS3 will have to stop production soon, because there are too much consoles on stock, and too few console sold.
lol, think i care, if SONY cant market right, thats their problem, they have priced themselves out of the market, gambling on the fact everyone will buy it cause of the Blueray. I have to disagree, im a big fan of Amiga OS. I still rather have something like the old Workbench 3.1 (best OS imo). Very easy to use and doesnt crash.
Sorry FOL, I think you misunderstood me. ;) I said that it would be BAD for AmigaOS, not for Sony :)
I don't care much for Sony except for the fact they created a good handheld where I can play the GREAT Amiga. :)
Even I would like to have Workbench now, and not Win :) Never seen a crash, in all the times I used it.
I'm a GREAT Amiga fan myself, and so, I'm a GREAT Amiga OS too :)
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Ah, i thought you ment the other way round, lol.
Horace, I wish I had a scanner to scan the article, cause Amiga Inc is in the process of a deal to make 2 GHz PPC with possible OS 5.
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yes FOL, and it will be out in "two more weeks" ::)
(if you dont get the joke, try googling about os4.... hehe)
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yes FOL, and it will be out in "two more weeks" ::)
(if you dont get the joke, try googling about os4.... hehe)
Well, blame hyperion.
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wow - this is turning into eab or amiga.org or something!!
Amiga treated Hyperion like shit, they have had years of work put into os4, but the only reason a release never happened when expected (or wanted) is becuase amiga havent got a clue what they are doing....
and now they have the cheek to try and sue hyperion for wanting to release it!
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wow - this is turning into eab or amiga.org or something!!
Amiga treated Hyperion like shit, they have had years of work put into os4, but the only reason a release never happened when expected (or wanted) is becuase amiga havent got a clue what they are doing....
and now they have the cheek to try and sue hyperion for wanting to release it!
I stand corrected, i thought it had already been released
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i think a "version" was released - dont know about how publicly - and this is what is causing the law-suit.
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i was always of the opinion that if os4/5 or whatever was developed for Intel/AMD chipsets with backwards compatibility, then we would have had a huge choice in hardware and may have well gone down the spectacular success that linux has had. but thats just pure speculation....
as for the PS3 - would be good to see UAE on that. i plan to get one early next year.
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Well, you can already install linux and a few other variants/OS's on to the PS3, so surely there must be some sort of UAE for linux or one of those OS's? I know this isn't the OS5 you all want but its a start. If that is correct, then I wonder if you could mount the PS3's CD drive as an emulated miggy drive...
Does anyone here know the extent to which the PS3 can be used as a personal computer? Do you think there are certain tasks the PS3 just wont be able to accomplish that a PC could?
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hmnnnmnm
I've got a feeling that the PS3 will be "fixed" by sony to only play Sony certified stuff in no time :/
But thats my opinion ;)
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i doubt you can do that emu, when you have things like "yellow dog linux" on ps3 now...
http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/ydl/
my brother was looking at it the other day, since he has a ps3 now.... i will be interested to see what he can do with it.
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Well, you can already install linux and a few other variants/OS's on to the PS3, so surely there must be some sort of UAE for linux or one of those OS's? I know this isn't the OS5 you all want but its a start. If that is correct, then I wonder if you could mount the PS3's CD drive as an emulated miggy drive...
Does anyone here know the extent to which the PS3 can be used as a personal computer? Do you think there are certain tasks the PS3 just wont be able to accomplish that a PC could?
Yes, but Linux on PS3 is heavily limitated. You cannot use PS3 graphics hardware, and PS3 BD drive is still a mistery. The best thing they've done until now, is a strange program to dump a little of Blu-ray contenents on a HD.
Hm... Seeing the current homebrew situation right now (zero)... The PS3 is almost useless, as a Personal Computer. It can only run Linux but cannot use much, and if I remember correctly, it can't even use X fully.
Always the same Sony policy: "You have a good hardware, but we don't like to have you using it".
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Sry Sappo, but I think your wrong... [edit] There is quite a bit you can do already and as for the graphics card, there are no 'PC' type drivers, but it wont be too long before someone makes their own or Sony releases some software that can make use of the graphics card. I dont expect them to release drivers or anything like that because they dont exactly want unlicensed developers working on it without having to buy the dev kits and so forth.
Its still very early in this machines life span and way too early for anything to be released that turns it into a functional computer rather than an entertainment system.
*edit by HH* - stop that skate!
*edit by FOL* - Got sappo's name wrong!
*edit by Skate* - Leave my post alone! ;D
*edit by HH* - no!
*edit by Skate* - :-* :-* :-*
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Sry Sappa, but I think your wrong... [edit] There is quite a bit you can do already and as for the graphics card, there are no 'PC' type drivers, but it wont be too long before someone makes their own or Sony releases some software that can make use of the graphics card. I dont expect them to release drivers or anything like that because they dont exactly want unlicensed developers working on it without having to buy the dev kits and so forth.
Its still very early in this machines life span and way too early for anything to be released that turns it into a functional computer rather than an entertainment system.
*edit by HH* - stop that skate!
Wikipedia says it all: ;)
Main article: PlayStation 3 Linux
Sony has included an option in the XMB menu to install other operating systems.[92] Among other Linux distributions, Ubuntu, Fedora Core 5, Gentoo, Debian, and Yellow Dog have been run on the PS3.[93][94][95][96]
Sony currently implements a hypervisor restricting RSX access,[97]
That's not about drivers, that's an hypervisor, and until there's not a trace of full homebrew on PS3, no means to use the RSX. And I doubt that Sony would let developers use something more than that (see PSP, after lots of firmwares hacked, still no sign of surrending to Homebrew) :P
Why edit, Horace? ???
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just doing my job ;)
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Sry Sappa, but I think your wrong... [edit] There is quite a bit you can do already and as for the graphics card, there are no 'PC' type drivers, but it wont be too long before someone makes their own or Sony releases some software that can make use of the graphics card. I dont expect them to release drivers or anything like that because they dont exactly want unlicensed developers working on it without having to buy the dev kits and so forth.
Its still very early in this machines life span and way too early for anything to be released that turns it into a functional computer rather than an entertainment system.
*edit by HH* - stop that skate!
Wikipedia says it all: ;)
Main article: PlayStation 3 Linux
Sony has included an option in the XMB menu to install other operating systems.[92] Among other Linux distributions, Ubuntu, Fedora Core 5, Gentoo, Debian, and Yellow Dog have been run on the PS3.[93][94][95][96]
Sony currently implements a hypervisor restricting RSX access,[97]
That's not about drivers, that's an hypervisor, and until there's not a trace of full homebrew on PS3, no means to use the RSX. And I doubt that Sony would let developers use something more than that (see PSP, after lots of firmwares hacked, still no sign of surrending to Homebrew) :P
Why edit, Horace? ???
Why does everyone quote wikipedia, IT COULD BE WRONG, as anyone can enter the information there. Even a monkey, imagine that, ;). I could go on there and edit it and say SONY have been in talks to purcahse the Amiga brand, and people would believe it.
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I almost forgot that Wikipedia is put together by fan boys. Very good point FOL, but these things are reviewed and so forth by a lot of people, not completely reliable, but you cant go far wrong with it.
Sappo, I sent you a PM explaining what was removed in my previous post, it was nothing at all serious, unless you get into tantrums, but you seem smart enough to not take everything you read to heart. :)
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I almost forgot that Wikipedia is put together by fan boys. Very good point FOL, but these things are reviewed and so forth by a lot of people, not completely reliable, but you cant go far wrong with it.
Sappo, I sent you a PM explaining what was removed in my previous post, it was nothing at all serious, unless you get into tantrums, but you seem smart enough to not take everything you read to heart. :)
Oh, no problem then. :)
I quote Wikipedia for the same reason, FOL. :) If there are Anti-Sony Fanboys, there are Sony Fanboys too, so I find it difficult that with so much Sony fanboys around, someone wouldn't edit that, after reading that article, if isn't true :P
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hmn, wikipedia's pretty good at times... found out a load of stuff about my hometown from that,,, good stuff!
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Viva la PS3!