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Title: General gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 20, 2008, 02:13:32 PM
I think when it comes to it, moonstone has some of the best pixel art available in amiga gaming,- as does anything by the bitmap brothers  ;D  - that said

Xenon 2  - bitmaps
Gods - bitmaps
speedball 2 - bitmap brothers..

... moonstone...   you've got a point there horace!  - has to be chaos engine to fill the void!

...  come to think of it, I only "really" like speedball 2 and chaos engine, gods and xenon seem mediocre...    how do you guys find these games?  good / alright / bad?  -  nothing to do with the graphic, but I just kinda , fancy knowing how you feel aboot these titles  :-X
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 20, 2008, 02:23:14 PM
lol, fol - we'll do a few 'specials' inc. moonstone and co.! you know it makes sense!

@ Emu

Xenon 2 is one of my fave scrolling-shooters of all time, and one of my 'highly rated' games in general and i'm not really into many shooters, so that says a lot i think!

Xenon 1 i think is mediocre, looking like it was written/designed more like an 8-bit game.

Chaos Engine i am not very fond of really, i much prefer the Alien Breed series.

Gods and Magic Pockets i find fairly similar, both in visual style and handling. I think they are fantastic games, very well excuted, good looking, great sound, nice gameplay.... but for some reason i've never got into them enough to play them for prolonged periods.

Speedball 2 - awesome game.... little needs saying here!
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 20, 2008, 02:25:12 PM
Leave it as it is Fol... it already looks wicked! :)

Maybe in a future release (after this one) you could have a variation in games from various devs for the eboot though? I see where Horrace is coming from with the theme but I still think it should cover the whole spectrum of Amiga games? ...to be honest though I'm not that bothered. lol


@: Emuchicken: I'm also not a fan of Gods... and the only good thing about Xenon2 was the music. lol
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Carnivac on March 20, 2008, 02:58:28 PM
I think when it comes to it, moonstone has some of the best pixel art available in amiga gaming

I don't agree.  While the backgrounds are fairly decent, the sprites themselves look scrappy and unfinished.  Extremely sloppy work when compared to something like Lionheart or Ruff N' Tumble.

The Bitmaps stuff.  Speedball 2 and Chaos Engine are great in every aspect, not keen on the rest of their games though.  Xenon II's alright but gets old very quick and I hated Gods.

Difficult choosing a bunch of games that everyone likes, eh?  Personally I was quite happy with the Project X and Populous ones, though I think I would like one that was just Turrican II as I love that title screen music and it was pretty much the game that made me get an Amiga, and one I still play a lot, and inspires most of my own projects in some way.
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 20, 2008, 03:18:36 PM
Uploading now, :).
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 20, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
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While the backgrounds are fairly decent, the sprites themselves look scrappy and unfinished.  Extremely sloppy work when compared to something like Lionheart or Ruff N' Tumble.

Yeah, lionheart and ruff n tumble are very good graphically... But dont forget Moonstone was made long before both of them...  it wasn't just the backgrounds of Moonstone, I liked the monsters and the way they were animated... oldschool ;-)  It a good constant style throughout

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@ Horace:  did you ever try any of the Capcom games on the CPS1PSP or CPS2PSP (arcade psp) emulators? - theres some jawdropping stuff available.  Strikers / 1945 etc...  Also Gradius V is VERY good on the PS2- if you have time you should check them out!
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 21, 2008, 08:03:46 AM
Hey I love Moonstone! ...its still one of my all time fav Amiga titles! ...plus I think the gorey graphics look pretty dam good!?



did you ever try any of the Capcom games on the CPS1PSP or CPS2PSP (arcade psp) emulators? - theres some jawdropping stuff available.  Strikers / 1945 etc...  Also Gradius V is VERY good on the PS2- if you have time you should check them out!

The Capcom shooters are second to none!

Gigawing, Forgoten Worlds, Mars Matrix,1944, eco fighters, diamoo etc all run great on the PSP. :)

I'd also highly recommend R-types (compete CD version) on the PCE PSP emulator. The CD's Mp3 music, additional cut scenes etc etc make it even better than the arcade and amiga versions!

Parodius, R-type Delta, Raiden DX and Radient Silvergun are other fav shrumps of mine. :)

2D all the way!
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 21, 2008, 09:54:41 AM
my prefered shooters are more like Alien Breed, Cybernoid, hell, even Plutos on two player!

i've played the likes of r-type, a number of recommended C64 and arcade shooters, and they just arent my cup of tea. As i say, its not really a genre i enjoy much.

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theres some jawdropping stuff available.  Strikers / 1945 etc...  Also Gradius V is VERY good on the PS2- if you have time you should check them out!
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I'd also highly recommend R-types (compete CD version) on the PCE PSP emulator. The CD's Mp3 music, additional cut scenes etc etc make it even better than the arcade and amiga versions!

it all about the gameplay, not fancy graphics or extra gubbins. This is why i can happily discover and enjoy games like Wipe-Out (http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/DBM1/WipOut.html) which will otherwise be readily dismissed by many.


i dont have time, or even the enthusiasm, to trawl other machine emulators for games i "might" like anymore. I'm just an amiga and spectrum user these days, not an emulator/retrogames freak.... whilst i might load c64, megadrive, ar arcde emu's, i already know what i want to play on them, and its still only a handful of games. sorry if that makes me a stick-in-the-mud.  :-\


Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Carnivac on March 21, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
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While the backgrounds are fairly decent, the sprites themselves look scrappy and unfinished.  Extremely sloppy work when compared to something like Lionheart or Ruff N' Tumble.

Yeah, lionheart and ruff n tumble are very good graphically... But dont forget Moonstone was made long before both of them...  it wasn't just the backgrounds of Moonstone, I liked the monsters and the way they were animated... oldschool ;-)  It a good constant style throughout

No I didn't forget but I just considered many other games of the time to have better looking sprite work.  Moonstone just did nothing for me at all graphically. 

The Capcom shooters are second to none!

Gigawing, Forgoten Worlds, Mars Matrix,1944, eco fighters, diamoo etc all run great on the PSP. :)

I'd also highly recommend R-types (compete CD version) on the PCE PSP emulator. The CD's Mp3 music, additional cut scenes etc etc make it even better than the arcade and amiga versions!

Parodius, R-type Delta, Raiden DX and Radient Silvergun are other fav shrumps of mine. :)

2D all the way!

I play Giga Wing quite a lot not just on PSP but on the PC connected to the big screen TV with the Dual X-Arcade sticks and have a friend over playing it too amongst a ton of other classic arcade games.  R-Types are usually good yeah, and I far prefer Raident Silvergun a whole lot more than the follow up Ikaruga which I just found tedious.   Gradius V on PS2 is good too yeah (I've just won an auction on ebay for a nice lil Vic Viper figurine actually) and you mention PCE CD, Gates of Thunder and Lords of Thunder are great shoot 'em ups on that format too.

But even on Amiga theres several shooters I still love to this day and maybe a bit more than even my arcade favorites.  Main ones being Uridium 2, Battle Squadron, Project X and Silkworm (which is superior to the arcade version). 
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 21, 2008, 09:08:21 PM
Hey HH, you sound like an old man saying things like that  ;D 

Horace:
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I don't like to try anything but play Amiga and Spectrum games cos I'm old

see!  quoted it!

Seriously!  Gradius V is kick ASS!  not just graphically, but gameplay is kickass,...  and if you can actually play it WELL, now thats something different ;) ... 2 player is pretty cool too, if you can find that extra guy!

These are the kinda shootemups that the companies emulated to be released on the amiga... I wouldnt say they got "as" good, but pretty damn close with Project X... ...  love the ships in that game ;-)
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 21, 2008, 11:37:33 PM
jeez, great reply. real mature.  ::)


i dont feel i should have to justify my reasons for wanting to use certain machines and not others. or my preferences for one genre of game over another for that matter.


it's a little thing called freedom of choice, and a matter of individual opinion.


i'm sorry you dont see it that way Emu. You are free to like what you want however.
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 22, 2008, 08:15:49 AM
People can obviously choose to play what ever they want.

I'd say your missing out on some truly classic games Horrace, but respect for loving the amiga and specy as much as you do!  ;D

I just love 2D gaming on a variety of platforms as there is so much good stuff out there. Being able to emulate most of the various classic machines and their numerous games (that I've either owned or wanted to play in the past but never got round to) is a huge passion of mine. :)
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 22, 2008, 11:25:01 AM
maybe when i've found time to complete;
 Wipe-Out, Populous, Populous 2, Powermonger, Powermonger WWI, Supremacy, Dune 2, The Settlers, Cybernoid, Cybernoid 2, Hammerfist, Rainbow Islands, Harley Davidson, Alien Breed, Alien Breed 2, Tower Assault, Xenon 2, Gods, Magic Pockets, Cadaver, Chaos Engine, The Payoff, Prince of Persia, Midnight Resistance, Pang, Datastorm, Nebulous, Exolon, Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, Syndicate, Eye of the Beholder, Eye of the Beholder 2, Lemmings, Lemmings 2, Oh No More Lemmings, Xmas Lemmings, Troddlers, The Power, Wonderboy in Monsterland, Dalek Attack, James Pond, Robocod, James Pond 3, Turrican, Turrican 2, Apidya, Battle Master, Legend, Worlds of Legend, Cannon Fodder, Cannon Fodder 2, Wizkid, Lotus 1-3, Supercars , Supercars 2, Captive, Darkseed, Antheads, Exile, Frontier, Moonstone, Parasol Stars, Bubble Bobble, Plutos, Mouse Trap, Frost Byte, Rodland, Robocop, Sim Ant, Shadow of the Beast 2, Switchblade, Stardust, Super Stardust, UFO (enemy Unknown), X-Out , Z-Out, Archipelagos, Bards Tale 2, Battle Isle, History Line, Flip it and Magnose, Fury of the Furries, Putty, Zool, Zool 2, Hired Guns, Morph, Qwak, Rik Dangerous, Rick Dangerous 2, Stormlord, Walker, and probably a load more i cant remember right now,
without cheating, then i'll need something new to play, yeah.


other than that, these days i'm more interested in Amiga coding than playing games anyway.
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: delta191 on March 22, 2008, 01:03:19 PM
And bloodwych? oh - I forgotten, i saw you finish it on U-tube, scratch one!  ;)

Nice list of to do's there Horace!

It's weird how people are different - we like different things, different things make different people tick - bit cliche but "variety is the spice of life"

bit like - gosh - isn't  that Kelly Brook gorgeous? .... Nah....Prefer a blonde myself!

Fancy a Kebab mate? Nah......more a fish and chip man myself.

Do you like my new Golf GTI ? Nah, not really mate - do you like my Citroen CV? what...that heap of *hite! you must be joking!  :o

Each man dosseth his own thing! then we get the best of everything :-*

Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 22, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
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maybe when i've found time to complete;
 Wipe-Out, Populous, Populous 2, Powermonger, Powermonger WWI, Supremacy, Dune 2, The Settlers, Cybernoid, Cybernoid 2, Hammerfist, Rainbow Islands, Harley Davidson, Alien Breed, Alien Breed 2, Tower Assault, Xenon 2, Gods, Magic Pockets, Cadaver, Chaos Engine, The Payoff, Prince of Persia, Midnight Resistance, Pang, Datastorm, Nebulous, Exolon, Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, Syndicate, Eye of the Beholder, Eye of the Beholder 2, Lemmings, Lemmings 2, Oh No More Lemmings, Xmas Lemmings, Troddlers, The Power, Wonderboy in Monsterland, Dalek Attack, James Pond, Robocod, James Pond 3, Turrican, Turrican 2, Apidya, Battle Master, Legend, Worlds of Legend, Cannon Fodder, Cannon Fodder 2, Wizkid, Lotus 1-3, Supercars , Supercars 2, Captive, Darkseed, Antheads, Exile, Frontier, Moonstone, Parasol Stars, Bubble Bobble, Plutos, Mouse Trap, Frost Byte, Rodland, Robocop, Sim Ant, Shadow of the Beast 2, Switchblade, Stardust, Super Stardust, UFO (enemy Unknown), X-Out , Z-Out, Archipelagos, Bards Tale 2, Battle Isle, History Line, Flip it and Magnose, Fury of the Furries, Putty, Zool, Zool 2, Hired Guns, Morph, Qwak, Rik Dangerous, Rick Dangerous 2, Stormlord, Walker, and probably a load more i cant remember right now,

if you've not completed any of them yet...  you've got no-chance matey... theyve been out for years  8)

Aye, tis all about choice n stuff, and big up for you loving the machines like you do...  You say you care about gameplay- as do I, thats why I'm not always going OMFG THAT LOOKS AWESOME I GOTTA GET THAT etc....  playing games as long as we've done you can see theres no REAL improvement on gameplay for new games, (especially in racers),, the only thing thats upgraded really is graphics.
...

......
and EA killed Westwood!  >:(
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 22, 2008, 05:15:56 PM
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maybe when i've found time to complete;
 Wipe-Out, Populous, Populous 2, Powermonger, Powermonger WWI, Supremacy, Dune 2, The Settlers, Cybernoid, Cybernoid 2, Hammerfist, Rainbow Islands, Harley Davidson, Alien Breed, Alien Breed 2, Tower Assault, Xenon 2, Gods, Magic Pockets, Cadaver, Chaos Engine, The Payoff, Prince of Persia, Midnight Resistance, Pang, Datastorm, Nebulous, Exolon, Desert Strike, Jungle Strike, Syndicate, Eye of the Beholder, Eye of the Beholder 2, Lemmings, Lemmings 2, Oh No More Lemmings, Xmas Lemmings, Troddlers, The Power, Wonderboy in Monsterland, Dalek Attack, James Pond, Robocod, James Pond 3, Turrican, Turrican 2, Apidya, Battle Master, Legend, Worlds of Legend, Cannon Fodder, Cannon Fodder 2, Wizkid, Lotus 1-3, Supercars , Supercars 2, Captive, Darkseed, Antheads, Exile, Frontier, Moonstone, Parasol Stars, Bubble Bobble, Plutos, Mouse Trap, Frost Byte, Rodland, Robocop, Sim Ant, Shadow of the Beast 2, Switchblade, Stardust, Super Stardust, UFO (enemy Unknown), X-Out , Z-Out, Archipelagos, Bards Tale 2, Battle Isle, History Line, Flip it and Magnose, Fury of the Furries, Putty, Zool, Zool 2, Hired Guns, Morph, Qwak, Rik Dangerous, Rick Dangerous 2, Stormlord, Walker, and probably a load more i cant remember right now,

if you've not completed any of them yet...  you've got no-chance matey... theyve been out for years  8)

Aye, tis all about choice n stuff, and big up for you loving the machines like you do...  You say you care about gameplay- as do I, thats why I'm not always going OMFG THAT LOOKS AWESOME I GOTTA GET THAT etc....  playing games as long as we've done you can see theres no REAL improvement on gameplay for new games, (especially in racers),, the only thing thats upgraded really is graphics.
...

......
and EA killed Westwood!  >:(

Indeed EA aquired Westwood, which inturn gave them the licence to Command & Conquer, then they shut Westwood down, :(.
Title: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 22, 2008, 10:33:27 PM
is suprising that westwood didnt team up after the EA thing, I mean.... I think they DID- but their games kinda sucked right?  ...  uh, I cant really remember heh :-)

nevermind, going off topic  ::)
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 22, 2008, 11:52:17 PM


nevermind, going off topic  ::)

not anymore you arent ;)  enjoy!
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 24, 2008, 11:05:25 PM
woo!

Did westwood release Bladerunner BEFORE or AFTER joining the EA?
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 25, 2008, 06:00:15 PM
woo!

Did westwood release Bladerunner BEFORE or AFTER joining the EA?

Before, and it was 1 fine game,I still have it, :). Cant play it though as it dont work with XP, :(.

Enough offtopic chat, :).
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 25, 2008, 06:26:29 PM
woo!

Did westwood release Bladerunner BEFORE or AFTER joining the EA?

Before, and it was 1 fine game,I still have it, :). Cant play it though as it dont work with XP, :(.

Enough offtopic chat, :).

its on-topic now fool!
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 26, 2008, 05:57:40 PM
woo!

Did westwood release Bladerunner BEFORE or AFTER joining the EA?

On the topic of Westwood, I have just found a patch from westwood (released in 2001), must have missed it. It fixes the Norton AV conflict with Emperor: Battle for dune, which stopped it from working.

In my opinion, Emperor is the best RTS to date, better than command and conquer. The game play and gfx are as fresh today as they were when it was released and its the only RTS where you can play the single player campaign as multiplayer co-op. Great stuff, ;).

Ill see if I can find a patch for Blade Runner now, be nice to play it again.
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 27, 2008, 09:03:56 AM
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only RTS where you can play the single player campaign as multiplayer co-op

you can WHAT!???!?
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: delta191 on March 27, 2008, 10:23:03 AM
 FOL : In my opinion, Emperor is the best RTS to date, better than command and conquer.

Strongly disagree FOL, the original C&C and C&C95 blew it away baby!

I actually re-wrote the whole campaigns for both NOD and GDI which took me over 12 months to produce.

I enjoyed the game so much but wanted to make it much harder to complete.

http://cnc-tech.planetcnc.gamespy.com/index.php?download=54

Nod Uprising, thats all my work Fella!  :o

Sometimes even I can surpass my ADF Limitations! lol  ;)

EA aquired Westwood purely to take over the C&C brand, cant blame them for that but they screwed the C&C games up after westwood's release of Red Alert, Red Alert II was laughable (probably due to EA's take over)


Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 27, 2008, 04:42:09 PM
FOL : In my opinion, Emperor is the best RTS to date, better than command and conquer.

Strongly disagree FOL, the original C&C and C&C95 blew it away baby!

I actually re-wrote the whole campaigns for both NOD and GDI which took me over 12 months to produce.

I enjoyed the game so much but wanted to make it much harder to complete.

http://cnc-tech.planetcnc.gamespy.com/index.php?download=54

Nod Uprising, thats all my work Fella!  :o

Sometimes even I can surpass my ADF Limitations! lol  ;)

EA aquired Westwood purely to take over the C&C brand, cant blame them for that but they screwed the C&C games up after westwood's release of Red Alert, Red Alert II was laughable (probably due to EA's take over)




I miss westwoods first and last MMORG (Earth & Beyond), before EA shut em down, :(.

StarWars Empires at war was done by some of the westwood guys, thats a great game, :).
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 27, 2008, 05:22:30 PM
most games with "Star Wars" in the title are good, just because of the interesting setting, and the latent fanboyism!

Super Star Wars on the SNES is an obvious exception to the rule however....
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 27, 2008, 05:40:23 PM
most games with "Star Wars" in the title are good, just because of the interesting setting, and the latent fanboyism!

Super Star Wars on the SNES is an obvious exception to the rule however....

To true, to true. I remember going down the arcades just to play (some would call it very very very very dated) Starwars, :).
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 27, 2008, 11:55:27 PM
I'm one of the old CnC RA fans...  I made a "TC" for it just for multiplayer adding looads of units n stuff... that was pretty cool tbh :)

download here : http://www.timboy.eclipse.co.uk/oldstuff/rapatch7f.zip
 ;D
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 28, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
most games with "Star Wars" in the title are good, just because of the interesting setting, and the latent fanboyism!

Super Star Wars on the SNES is an obvious exception to the rule however....


I loved the Star Wars Arcade game, Rogue Squadron, the Super Star Wars series on the Snes (sorry Horrace but I thought they were great), KOTR, battlefront 1&2, Lego Star Wars etc.

Most games that are movie tie-ins are generally rubbish... and the star wars franchise is no exception to that! There have been a handful of good SW games on various systems throughout the years while the majority have been complete bollocks.

I'm a complete star wars nut though. ...I just wish I didn't part with 90% of my Star Wars figs when I was a kid because I'd be rich If I still had them now! lol
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 28, 2008, 05:17:12 PM
most games with "Star Wars" in the title are good, just because of the interesting setting, and the latent fanboyism!

Super Star Wars on the SNES is an obvious exception to the rule however....


I loved the Star Wars Arcade game, Rogue Squadron, the Super Star Wars series on the Snes (sorry Horrace but I thought they were great), KOTR, battlefront 1&2, Lego Star Wars etc.

Most games that are movie tie-ins are generally rubbish... and the star wars franchise is no exception to that! There have been a handful of good SW games on various systems throughout the years while the majority have been complete bollocks.

I'm a complete star wars nut though. ...I just wish I didn't part with 90% of my Star Wars figs when I was a kid because I'd be rich If I still had them now! lol

KOTOR & KOTOR2, absolute class, shame their aint going to be a 3rd 1, :(.
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 28, 2008, 10:15:13 PM
well babbooon .... apart from the super star wars saga.... overly generic platform shooty pap, i'm struggling to think of other "not good" star wars games


original arcade trilogy, coverted to both speccy and amiga brilliantly

The gameboy/mastersystem/nes Star Wars /Empire games were far superior for the genre the super star wars trilogy offered.... without getting overly bogged down in standard "run though" affairs, they actually allowed for a surprising amount of scope in non-linear exploration.

x-wing / tie-fighter were amongst the  -very- few games i envied on the PC as an amiga owner in the early-mid 90's... although they retain little appeal next to the long-tern brilliance of say Frontier, they were great fun.

Dark Forces, although not living up to standards on the PSX, was as good an FPS as any at the time on the PC... only with the addition of stormtroopers... that already acts for +20 points over any of the others in my book, which i've never been interested in anyway.

Masters of Teras Kasi - although often disregarded , remains a popular PSX favourite amonst myself and my close friends.... again, i'm not really a fan of the genre (beat-em-ups) but the added fanboyism of lightsabres and quality characters, complete with questionable names / pronounciations made it well worthwhile  (Hoar vs Thok was always a favourite for cheap misinterpretation!)

The PSX phantom menace game, although lacking in visual quality, still retained a lot of appeal. perhaps it was the free-roaming nature of certains sections and the abilty to "accidently" slaughter gungans that helped!! (not to mention the overly quotable laughable dialog often akin to 'resident evil' that helped... "HEY!!!! Get out of MY houSE!!"  "what's that GAS coming out of the FLOOR??" etc etc

the whole jedi knight / mysteries of the sith saga... although only FPS's , the star wars related addons were excellent.... the force powers in particular... on top of the more obvious things such as running around Bespin with a lightsabre. This series continued on with the likes of Knights of the Old Republic... which although i never played extensively, certainly fulfiled their role within what i consider a very stale genre very well..

Star Wars: Rebellion and Star Wars: Force Commander both achieved very well the ability to adapt the universe to the RTS genre, and retain some appeal....  being able to invade with Imperial forces complete with an array of AT-ATs and AT-STs must be a plus point to anyone no? again, these had no long term appeal for me, as i'd soon find myself returning to the likes of Mega Lo Mania or Dune 2 on the Amiga, but they were as good as anything else on the PC, but with the added bonus of utilising the Star Wars universe with success.

More lately , i have only tried the Lego Star Wars and BattleFront / Rogue Squadron games on the PSP... the latter of which remains excellent fun on the multiplayer mode, breathing life into a style of game (yep, FPS again) which i would be uninterested in but for the additons that the Star Wars universe adds.

even if the success rate of Star Wars by these ratings is only 50-70%.... i would say that's pretty good going for a franchise that has been run into the ground since 1977 , and covers most of the main genres in an fairly stale and unimaginative modern gaming market.
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 28, 2008, 11:20:47 PM
...  you forgot to mention one, that star wars strategy thing ...  real slow but was kinda interesting :> ...  uh , forgot the name though...

Amiga Return of the Jedi was a joke XD ... Converted from the arcade brilliantly.. but still sucked - the others were alright :)

I actually hated Super Star Wars, but loved the Super Return of the Jedi,  I think the 3 for hte SNES actually started out weak and got far better.

...  Never played Masters of Teras Kasi, but the Jedi Knight franchise kicked ass...  its great how you got a choice in what kinda powers you wanted to have (dark / light side) then you had a light saber.. I mean...  wooooah.... XD ...  good fun on multiplayer too.

X-Wing vs Tie Fighter also excelled in multiplayer...  it was mediocre at best on single player, then ...  when you got with your friends, each guy could play co-op in a campaign ...  they should re-do that with completely enhanced shiznit...  ...  just as a flight sim. :-)
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 29, 2008, 09:45:33 AM
...  you forgot to mention one, that star wars strategy thing ...  real slow but was kinda interesting :> ...  uh , forgot the name though...

Star Wars: Force Commander.... i mentioned it!
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 29, 2008, 10:03:01 AM
Here's a few SW games that are not so hot...



The Return of The jedi (arcade/amiga) - WTF were they thinking with this game?

Star Wars Chess (Sega CD) - a poor man's battle chess but with some piss poor animation and loading times.

Star Wars Arcade (from 1994) -The action never really heats up, and the gameplay is just repetitive point-and-shoot.

Dark Forces - You'd think the Star Wars atmosphere would help to make up for the murky, pixelated graphics and choppy scaling, but it doesn't - its shite.

Shadows of the Empire - poor gameplay, gfx etc.

Rebel Assault II - cheesy acting and mind-numbing gameplay.

Masters of Teras Kasi - Tekken 3 this ain't. What sounds like an intriguing concept ends up getting wasted on a game with choppy, unpolished graphics, stiff controls, and sloppy play mechanics. With all the complex moves at your disposal, it's a little disappointing when you realize you can win almost every round by just using the kick button. You are the first person I've ever spoken to Horrace that likes that game?  lol

Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace (PSX) - Another lackluster movie tie-in.




I was really hoping for another SW battlefront game but this is looking very unlikely now. :(
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 29, 2008, 10:41:47 AM
Here's a few SW games that are not so hot...

The Return of The jedi (arcade/amiga) - WTF were they thinking with this game?

Star Wars Chess (Sega CD) - a poor man's battle chess but with some piss poor animation and loading times.

Star Wars Arcade (from 1994) -The action never really heats up, and the gameplay is just repetitive point-and-shoot.

Dark Forces - You'd think the Star Wars atmosphere would help to make up for the murky, pixelated graphics and choppy scaling, but it doesn't - its shite.

Shadows of the Empire - poor gameplay, gfx etc.

Rebel Assault II - cheesy acting and mind-numbing gameplay.

Masters of Teras Kasi - Tekken 3 this ain't. What sounds like an intriguing concept ends up getting wasted on a game with choppy, unpolished graphics, stiff controls, and sloppy play mechanics. With all the complex moves at your disposal, it's a little disappointing when you realize you can win almost every round by just using the kick button. You are the first person I've ever spoken to Horrace that likes that game?  lol

Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace (PSX) - Another lackluster movie tie-in.

I was really hoping for another SW battlefront game but this is looking very unlikely now. :(

most of those where in my "i like" list.

oh well.  btw, i think Tekken 3 is crap, and much prefer Teras Kasi.... i dont really like beat-em-ups either.
Title: Re: General Amiga gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 29, 2008, 11:02:37 AM


most of those where in my "i like" list.

oh well.  btw, i think Tekken 3 is crap, and much prefer Teras Kasi.... i dont really like beat-em-ups either.

Well I guess everyone's got there own tastes.

I only mentioned Tekken 3 as a comparison because it was out at the same time on the PSX and Namco had pretty much mastered their 3D fighting engine.

Masters of Teras Kasi really was not my cup of tea... but I reckon the new Soul Calibre could fill the Star Wars 3D fighting void as they've announced that it will (bizarely) include characters from the Star Wars Universe.  ;D
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 29, 2008, 11:34:54 PM
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it will (bizarely) include characters from the Star Wars Universe.

... you WHAT!?

 - I'd have to defend Tekken 3, thats when the series just lifted off...  Tekken 1 I hated... 2 was good, then 3...  all that could really done was to polish the graphics. ... Only problem really about these games are them juggles that them geeks use - once you're knocked down they'll juggle you for ages and you die after one knockdown...  >:(   kinda ruins the will to me to go into the arcade to play this game.

PS:  HH, that wasn't the game , it had a different name...  I cant find it anywhere though!  It was around maybe the late 90s, we were playing it on p200's at the time, but it was like, you could see all the systems and you could make ships, research, send the main characters on missions, use diplomacy to get systems into your control, and blow up whole planets with the deathstar... also when battles came about (ships) you could control them in a.. .wierd...  uh, "attack that guy" fashion....    uh,  ...  you know the one?
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: Hungry Horace on March 29, 2008, 11:46:57 PM
err... sorry emu.. all the familar bits still sound like Force Commander to me!!  although that was more like early 2000s anyway, and yours sounds like it had some other bits to the planetary end of things
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 30, 2008, 10:39:47 AM
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it will (bizarely) include characters from the Star Wars Universe.

... you WHAT!?



Check this video for cameos from Darth vader in the latest Soul Blade game that's coming out in the summer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cud2qKz3FA

Very strange croos over if you ask me? lol

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/01/sc4-darth-yoda.jpg)
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: FOL on March 30, 2008, 11:48:43 AM
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it will (bizarely) include characters from the Star Wars Universe.

... you WHAT!?



Check this video for cameos from Darth vader in the latest Soul Blade game that's coming out in the summer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cud2qKz3FA

Very strange croos over if you ask me? lol

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/01/sc4-darth-yoda.jpg)

LOL nice, but im not a big fan of those games anymore. I prefer Tekken 1 and Streetfighter 2
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: EmuChicken on March 30, 2008, 02:13:40 PM
nah its not force commander...   damnit, I cant think of the name at all...  star wars: ...  crap.... uh, i think it was maybe the same time-ish of x-wing vs tie fighter though...

argh!
Title: Re: General gaming chat
Post by: baboon on March 30, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
LOL nice, but im not a big fan of those games anymore. I prefer Tekken 1 and Streetfighter 2

It's all about the Streetfighter!.. 2D all the way!

I still cane Street Fighter 2... plus its quite cool cause my brothers even got the Champion edition arcade machine pcb - as well as tmnt, xmen vs streetfighter, smash tv and the original CPS1 Strider PCB (which he paid a small fortune for lol).  ;D ...he's only got a small 1bed flat in Bristol too! lol

I'm personally looking forward to this summers Street Fighter IV and also the Super Street Fighter 2 HD remix that will be on xbla and psn soon. :)

It a shame SF2 was so poor on the Amiga though. I remember when it came out I tried kidding myself it was a good conversion (even with the lack of buttons/animation etc)... but at that time when I lived my my bro he had his incarnation of SF2 on the Snes which kind of blew away the amiga version. lol


I think I might pick up the Star Wars Soul Blade game though... its sounds intriguing anway.