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[delta191]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAgggghhhhh.........it's horace's DS-lite, its finally arrived! lol

looks like it cost 20p from that picture! lol

Seriously - yeah pandora should be a little powerhouse portable Pc, 200 quid for a mini laptop really (disguised in a DS-lite Clam shell) should be good, think FOL should start coding PSPUAE MKII PANDORA 

[john4p]

Chill out everyone - maybe we won't need to buy the Pandora...

[Hungry Horace]

Or save your dosh for the up-coming Pandora handheld that should be a homebrew dream with its top specs! 

if a complete lack of commercial games, and a limited size userbase is your thing, then yeah, go for it.

i might get one when they crash in price.

@ delta, i was thinking more the leap from psp fat (v1) -> slim (v2) -> slimmer? (v3)  rather than anything with any extra cpu power or anything.

[FOL]

Or save your dosh for the up-coming Pandora handheld that should be a homebrew dream with its top specs! 

if a complete lack of commercial games, and a limited size userbase is your thing, then yeah, go for it.

i might get one when they crash in price.

@ delta, i was thinking more the leap from psp fat (v1) -> slim (v2) -> slimmer? (v3)  rather than anything with any extra cpu power or anything.

Aye, seems everyone gives the phat a hard time. Its not the specs of the psp holding it back (as such) but the coding. All the emu's are ported, as in not specifically made for PSP.

[baboon]

Or save your dosh for the up-coming Pandora handheld that should be a homebrew dream with its top specs! 

if a complete lack of commercial games, and a limited size userbase is your thing, then yeah, go for it.

i might get one when they crash in price.

Very true.

Although on the psp I havent properly played a commercial game for ages now! There just isn't that many class A titles out there!   ...if it wasnt for the emulators than my machine would have been sold ages ago. I'll defo be sticking with my phat machine - well unless all homebrew devs suddenly decide to crap on the phat and all go down the slim route (very doubtful though lol).

I guess if all you want is amazing emulation than nothing will even come close to the proposed specs on pandora. Only time will tell what homebrew/emu's will be on it though...

[john4p]

I hope the Pandora will be made of durable materials and have great controls.

[baboon]

I hope the Pandora will be made of durable materials and have great controls.

Well from the screen shot it currently looks like something from 'Toys R Us' thats been made by Fisher Price! lol


Hey sorry for taking another thread off topic! ....I still think the psp Slime tv-out is gay though.   

[delta191]

I agree with Baboon, the amount of garbage titles out for psp proves that the psp is seen as second grade console and is low priority to the major software houses, with the exception of killzone liberation!

I have an 8 gig pro duo and its only full with PSX, GBA, AMIGA, SNES, MAME, ATARI ST, C64, 800XL, ATARI 7800, NES, NEO-GEO games. without all that I'd sell my psp's to!

The pandora will take some time to capture the market, which it may never do anyway, even if it is a success, it wont be easy to get hold of for the next 6 months anyway, there will only be 100 in circulation this month for Devs for bug fixing and testing, then a further 3000 for anyone who preorders, first come first serve basis. if 120,000 people want one, thats a huge backlog!

 I cant see it being easy to pick one up for the next 6-12 months, I'd be very surprise if you can pick one up easilly for x-mas 2008.

Keep your little black friend handy for now 

Baboon - until you get a slim, you will always have to but up with an heavy, cumbersome , quite sounding, small screen output, short battery life, badly positioned memorycard slotted psp lol 

[Hungry Horace]

Very true.

Although on the psp I havent properly played a commercial game for ages now! There just isn't that many class A titles out there!   ...if it wasnt for the emulators than my machine would have been sold ages ago. I'll defo be sticking with my phat machine - well unless all homebrew devs suddenly decide to crap on the phat and all go down the slim route (very doubtful though lol).

i used to think that, but now i find myself really enjoying;  OutRun 2006, LocoRoco, Gottlieb Pinball, Williams Pinball, GTA:LCS , GTA:VCS, Taito Legends, Battlefront: Renegade Squadron.


that's more than enough to warrant not selling my PSP

@ delta - show me one system that ISNT loaded with 'garbage titles'?

does anyone know anyone not from the internet who has even heard of the GP2X, let alone own one? because i cant name a single person. The Pandora is unlikely to be any more successful than that, especially since it looks like a ZX-Spectrum (which was great in the 80s, but hardly cutting-edge for 2008)

i happen to like design and style, as well as functionality.

[delta191]

 My point was that the psp is littered with poor remakes and poorly ported titles from other consoles, not much thats original or ground breaking, I still think the PS-2 is the best console ever.

games like Shadow of Colossus, Resident Evil 4, Mercenaries - playground of destruction, Champions of Norrath, GTA III, God of war, all original ps-2 classics, most still being ported to the next gen consoles.

The PSP has a very limited number of quality titles, its been around since early 2005 now and should have lots of quality titles to choose from, instead we can count the number on one hand 

the ps-2 has a few hundred in my opinion 

I'd like to try before i buy a pandora, not convinced it will be a quality buy 

[Hungry Horace]

i dont understand what you expect from a machine tht is no more powerful, but can fit in your hand?

obviously the games are largely going to be re-workings of what has gone before, but the same can be said of the PS2. The PS1 had already been there and done that.

I cant think of much innovation on the PS2, and the system was littered with re-hashes and re-labelling of all the old series... be it Res Evil, FIFA, Tony Hawk, GTA.... they all got run into the ground, and I will stand by the fact i have nearly as many PSP games now as i did unique PS2 games.  The PS2 was one of the most overflooded markets of crap games i've ever seen.

and i dont have 8 fingers on one hand to count my fave PSP titles on btw delta. Although i wont deny i think the machine -should- have a lot more good titles on it, i blame the state of gaming today rather than the machine itself or Sony.... picking the PS2 as a 'better example' doesnt really hold up to much close examination if you ask me.

[delta191]

you can add an extra finger to that hand, Killzone liberation is the only class game on PSP.

some classic retro games could breath life into the psp, I'm sure the psp spec should cope with these classics:

X-com terror from the deep
Ultima VII - the black gate
Ultima underworld
Wing commander
System shock II
C&C gold
Stronghold
Dungeon master II
Sundog - the frozen legacy
Lords of the realm
Corporation
Defender of the crown
Megatraveller - quest of the ancients
syndicate

surely with updated graphics and sound, these games could be reworked and made brilliant again on psp.

looks like duke nukem is being worked on for 2009 

[FOL]

you can add an extra finger to that hand, Killzone liberation is the only class game on PSP.

some classic retro games could breath life into the psp, I'm sure the psp spec should cope with these classics:

X-com terror from the deep
Ultima VII - the black gate
Ultima underworld
Wing commander
System shock II
C&C gold
Stronghold
Dungeon master II
Sundog - the frozen legacy
Lords of the realm
Corporation
Defender of the crown
Megatraveller - quest of the ancients
syndicate

surely with updated graphics and sound, these games could be reworked and made brilliant again on psp.

looks like duke nukem is being worked on for 2009 

Delta, C&C is already on PSN Network, I have already downloaded it, .

[delta191]

I converted the psx version of C&C 12 moths ago with icetea 1.3, thats not C&C gold its rather an awful psx conversion, that runs way to fast, just like psx Red Alert. awful gameplay conpaired to C&C95 or C&C gold on a 486/33 PC

I'd rather they didn't bother, if all remakes/conversions are going to be that bad.

[FOL]

I converted the psx version of C&C 12 moths ago with icetea 1.3, thats not C&C gold its rather an awful psx conversion, that runs way to fast, just like psx Red Alert. awful gameplay conpaired to C&C95 or C&C gold on a 486/33 PC

I'd rather they didn't bother, if all remakes/conversions are going to be that bad.

Your, obviously not sure on games history, it was made for PSOne first. I also disagree, its much better on PSOne that crappy PC, , so there, .