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[Sergiusz L.]

Hi

So this is my problem.
I want to install AMOS Pro on HDD in (WinUAE).
- which configuration should I use (chipset, CPU, kickstart etc.)?
- how to make bootable partition with AMOS. I dont have idea
how to create partitions (pathes, blocks, surfaces etc.)
Or can anyone write for me configuration (*.uae) file with that kind of partition ?

Currently I'm using AMOS Pro 1.0 with configuration
- Cpu 68010
- Full ECS
- Kickstart v1.3 rev 34.5
- 1Mb Chip 1Mb Slow
- Disk Drives DF0: DF1:

[SamuraiCrow]

I would suggest not using full ECS emulation unless you have Kickstart 2+ since Kickstart 1.3 supports a maximum of 512k of Chip RAM.

As for making a hardfile bootable with WinUAE, you should be able to click on a button at the bottom of the "drives" configuration screen and selecting a capacity in multiples of 4k or so.  (I'm not posting from home otherwise I'd tell you the exact buttons to push.)

[SamuraiCrow]

Ok.  I'm home now.  In order to create a new hardfile you click "Add Hardfile" at the bottom of hard drives menu.  From there you enter the number of megabytes in the second text gadget from the bottom (the one marked MB).  When that's done select OFS/FFS/RDB from the drop-down menu labeled "type" (So you can make it bootable.)  Then click the "create" button.  Once the hardfile is created, you should be able to select it from a requester by clicking the "..." button next to the path string gadget.

In order to swap between the 5 or so disk images required to install AmosPro press the F12 key and select the disk images from the "floppy drives" screen.  Or in later versions, it would seem that you can enter the floppy images into the "disk swapper" screen.

[Sergiusz L.]

Well.. I've done what you say.

I've created 50Mb partition.
It's looks like that
Path "C:\WinUAE\programs\(directory)\(partition).hdf"
Filesystem "                                     "
Device:DH0
BootPrit:0
Read/Write
default
Surfaces:1
Sectors:32
Rserved:2
Block_size:512
OFS/FFS/RDB

I launched UAE...
 "Not a dos disk in device dh0:"

..so I'v added directory
"C:\WinUAE\programs\(directory)\subdirectory"
device name :dh1
volume: hdd
read/write

I launched it...
It is starting to install...
"Where to install "
I've selected Dh1

"please locate your hard-disc boot partition .."
I've selected Dh1 (same as earlier)

and while installations ...
"An error has occured when writing the files"

always the same report.

...what's going on ?

[SamuraiCrow]

I think you need to format the hardfile the same way you would need to format an unformatted hard drive partition.

[Sergiusz L.]

Ahm... (so like i thopught this is not bootable partition ;p)

So what should I do to format this partition ?
(any special programs, commands ...?)

---
sorry but I'm total noob now.
I never had HDD on Amiga (my friend has A1200 with Hdd but it was 12 years ago and I don't remember how did he install on it)

[SamuraiCrow]

I think there is a file called disk-formatter that is required by the Workbench to format a partition.  Back when I installed my bootable partition hardfile, I just used a magazine cover CD to boot from and installed from there.  If you have an AmigaOS 3.9 install disk you can use the emergency-install directory on the CD.  If you still have your Amiga you can convert the AmigaOS boot disks to .ADF files to boot off of and format the hardfile with.

Try to use AmigaOS version 2+ and an equivalent Kickstart or better since it has the bootable hard-drive support in the ROM.  If you have Kickstart 1.2 or older you need to use an .ADF to boot from and just use the mountlist to mount the hardfile.  It's very difficult.

Kickstart/Workbench 1.3 was the first to allow bootable hard-drives but I'm not sure how the Kickstart 1.3 version of Fast FileSystem works with a hardfile but it ONLY works with hard-drives/hardfiles becuase the 1.3 version of Fast FileSystem doesn't work with floppies.

In short, use a new version of AmigaOS/Kickstart combination or AmigaForever and you will avoid a lot of headaches.

[Sergiusz L.]

Ahh my foult ...i didn't say that I'm using WinUAE on my PC
(PIII 700,over 300MB Ram,40GB HDD )
...and changed config to Kick 2.04 ,Full Ecs,1MB Chip, 2MB Fast.

---
Ok thx for advices I will try to find out on others sites.
But till I will work on fdd so there can be a lots of AMOS Pro questions now because I used it over 10 years ago  !

So R U ready to massive attack of questions ?  8-)

[SamuraiCrow]

sersoft wrote:
Ahh my foult ...i didn't say that I'm using WinUAE on my PC
(PIII 700,over 300MB Ram,40GB HDD )
...and changed config to Kick 2.04 ,Full Ecs,1MB Chip, 2MB Fast.

You mentioned in the title that you're working on WinUAE.  The way you access files on the CD-ROM initially is by mounting a directory on the disk as a hard-drive.

---
Ok thx for advices I will try to find out on others sites.
But till I will work on fdd so there can be a lots of AMOS Pro questions now because I used it over 10 years ago  !

So R U ready to massive attack of questions ?  8-)

I hope so!  :-D

[Sergiusz L.]

Ok I've installed it.
Not exactly what I wanted... but it will increase speed of my job. :-)

[Lonewolf10]

Personally, I just copied my Amiga stuff from CD straight to a folder called "Amiga-HD" in "My Documents".
All I had to do then was set up my own configuration adding 3 harddrives under "Harddrives":

1) Boot harddrive (aka System partition on Amiga's) which points to "...My Documents/Amiga-HD/System/"
2) Harddrive for Amiga-HD folder which points to "...My Documents/Amiga-HD/"
3) 'Harddrive' for the CD-ROM which points to "D:" (CD-ROM drive on laptop)


If no CD is found in the CD-ROM drive then 'harddrive' 3 doesn't appear on the workbench.

Doing it this way will probably mess up any memory detection on installers, but I usually install everything manually anyway


Regards,
Lonewolf10

[woody.cool]

I noticed you mentioning it worked with Kick 2.04!

If you want to use a hardfile Kick 1.3 you need to copy the FastFileSystem file from your Workbench 1.3 disk into the same folder on the PC that contains your Kickstart ROM files.
On top of this, you need to make sure you boot up from a Workbench 1.3 disk when you format the hardfile.

More information can be found here: http://guide.abime.net/home1.3.htm