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[bruceuncle]

Oh dear, I've just seen the "120 days old" warning.  Sorry, I hadn't realised it was that long.  And I did take a short side excursion to Resource Bloodwych (just for a break from the AMOS Docs).  Anyway, apologies again for leaving it so long.  (A few problems with family and friends seem to have taken up a fair bit of time too  ).

Here's what I've been doing in the AMOS V2.1x arena:

It's taking a while to get this next release together as I've the installer to complete and had to do a load of work to finally get a "clean" formatted AMOS Help File out of the existing Docs database.  It was originally designed for a printed output (PDF with built-in XRef links - and still is!).  I had to build a side-by-side WYSIWYG AMOS Help editor into the original which took one heck of a lot longer to get right than I anticipated.  But it works!  There's a few piccies of the editor attached so's you can see what I mean.  As I just press a button and all 1,000+ Help topics and menus pop out of the database automatically, it's essential that I can preview the AMOS output as I go, and correct if necessary.  Some topics also need separate versions for the printed and Help File outputs.  AMOS Help Menus being the obvious one - they're in the contents, index and cross-references in the PDF version but need to be menus in the AMOS Help version.

So be patient.  There's a lot happening at my end but I've been a bit slack in keeping everyone up to date/

[SamuraiCrow]

Thanks for the update!

[Lonewolf10]

You have been busy bruceuncle. Thank you for the pictures and the update 

[gibs]

Thanks

[bruceuncle]

Thanks guys.  I was starting to feel a bit lonely  .

I'm just about to start pulling the AMOS Compiler apart to see what the problems are.  I've been putting that off until I knew more about how the libraries are loaded and used, how tokenising works, how the interpreter works, and so on.  (Still a bit vague on variables but they're starting to make sense.)  I think I know enough now to tackle the 'love child' in the AMOS Pro world - the Compiler .

So if anyone out there has any info on the AMOS Pro Compiler that fits this list:

• Bugs not already in the list
• Any known 'fixes'
• Any modified versions that differ from the original V2.0.  (Binaries are fine if any exist.  I picked up a couple of bug fixes for the Interpreter from modified amos.library and AMOSPro.Lib binaries.)

then please let me know.  No point in re-inventing the wheel  .

Also please appreciate that pulling the compiler apart and trying to debug it is going to take some time.

However, on the brighter side of AMOS Pro redevelopment, it shouldn't be too long before I can get an installable beta out (with the Compiler 'as is').  Looks like about 8 floppies worth but may be more as I want it to include the entire set of sources and support files necessary to build AMOS Pro from scratch.  (Adapting to other development directories will just mean you have to change some paths in the +amos_includes file).  I also need to get the bug list up to date (I've been a bit slack updating it to reflect what I've been fixing  ).  Not to mention completing the CSI AMOS docs on how the Loader and Interpreter work.  (Damn!  I was hoping everyone had forgotten that.  Or that the original had sent them all to sleep  .)

[Lonewolf10]

I don't recall any major updates to the compiler v2.0, but will check my files and get back to you

[bruceuncle]

I don't recall any major updates to the compiler v2.0, but will check my files and get back to you

Thanks Lonewolf10.  I haven't come across any mods myself but I thought it worth asking anyway.

[Lonewolf10]

Thanks Lonewolf10.  I haven't come across any mods myself but I thought it worth asking anyway.

I didn't find any mods myself after searching my collection, however I did find these which you may find useful:

Compiler 1 sources (2View/AMOSCompiler.zip)
multitasking patch (AMOS_Tools/AMOS_Patch.zip)
AMOS Optimizer (2View/aot100.lha)
AMOS Pro Compiler Intuition Interface 1.01 (by Fabrizio Bazzo, 1996), including sources (2View/APCII.lha)

Let me know if you have them already or not.
You can ignore the archive names in the brackets, they are just there as a reminder of the archives location should you decide you would like something. Some (or all) of them may have been downloaded from Aminet.

[bruceuncle]

Thanks Lonewolf10.  I haven't come across any mods myself but I thought it worth asking anyway.

I didn't find any mods myself after searching my collection, however I did find these which you may find useful:

Compiler 1 sources (2View/AMOSCompiler.zip)
multitasking patch (AMOS_Tools/AMOS_Patch.zip)
AMOS Optimizer (2View/aot100.lha)
AMOS Pro Compiler Intuition Interface 1.01 (by Fabrizio Bazzo, 1996), including sources (2View/APCII.lha)

Let me know if you have them already or not.

Thanks Lonewolf10  .  I don't have any of those.  So where can I download them?  (The "2View/" and "AMOS_Tools/" have me mystified, or am I missing something I should know  ?)

Any sources related to AMOS or AMOS Pro are useful.  I paw over sources like an ancient mariner over lost treasure maps  .  Sometimes  they're useful, sometimes not.  Sometimes there's even comments  .  But they're always interesting.

[bruceuncle]

So where can I download them?

Found them straight away using Google  .
Thanks again for pointing me in their direction.

[Lonewolf10]

Thanks Lonewolf10  .  I don't have any of those.  So where can I download them?  (The "2View/" and "AMOS_Tools/" have me mystified, or am I missing something I should know  ?)

Sorry, I wasn't entirely clear in my previous post. "2View/" and "AMOS_Tools/" are directories on my laptop's harddrive 

Found them straight away using Google  .
Thanks again for pointing me in their direction.

No problem

[Amiten]

Hello friends,


What about Amos AGA? Still development?

Hope yes !

All the best
Amiten

[SamuraiCrow]

First come bug fixes, then new features.

[bruceuncle]

Yeah.  I'm still up to my neck in the bug fix phase.  (A couple in the AMOS accessory programs Sample_Bank_Maker and Resource_Bank_Maker have cropped up now but already fixed!  I expect there may be more...  The Help sample programs also have more than a few comments that are misaligned with line number references and a few other mistakes - not critical but confusing!  It just all takes a lot of time to put right.)  And I've still got a list of minor bugs that I haven't even looked at in any great detail yet.  Some of them appear to just be 'the way AMOS expects you to use the commands' rather than outright bugs.  The original manual doesn't make some things very clear as to  how the instructions should be 'fitted together'.  So way down the track that manual's got to be rewritten too.  For the time being, I'm pouring that knowledge into the help database.  As I should still be able to pull an AMOS Reference Manual out of that, maybe that might be enough.

But, as SamuraiCrow points out, bug fixes first then AGA.  I've collected a mass of material on AGA but can't afford to get too involved until this current task is over.  If anyone else wants to have a dabble please do.  Any input and/or source is very welcome.  It will be a mammoth task in itself as I haven't settled on an architecture yet but, in any case, some major surgery will be required!

I haven't got very far into the compiler and can't yet see any obvious causes for the crash and memory bugs.  It will take me a while as a lot of family life (unfortunately tragedies mostly  ) has kept me away from spending as much time as I would like on AMOS.  But I do check the forum daily from my smartphone, so chat away guys  .

I have managed to strip out the HD installer and mostly adapted it to checking and installing AMOS V2.10 from a set of floppies.  Note that this is a HD install only!  Whilst it may just be possible to run AMOS Pro V2.10 from floppies (as the original install disks do) the size of the help file blows that away from the start.  And running AMOS Pro from floppies is a time-consuming way to develop stuff.  One advantage is that there's then no need for the kludges to get it all to fit.  (E.g. those dummy accessory programs that refer you to a different location.  They can now all reside in the Accessories directory.)

So a set of floppies to install to a hard drive is what I'm building.

I've always been a lousy communicator so don't hesitate to give me a nudge if I haven't posted for a while and you want to know where I'm up to. 

[Amiten]

Nice ! I hope you find the time to complete Amos Aga it'll be a dream for me, between I dont know if I can help in any task because dont know really how you made this miracle. All the best

Amiten